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Re: Yay for the 400!

Post by fossie » Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:48 pm

The bit of tube under the carbs is for that reason, checking float heights .
The manual does say 1.5 turns out but that is factory , after the jet has been played with it will vary unless new o rings are fitted with new springs.
If you have got a 400 started easily. You are on a winner, after that it is just balancing because the movement from tick over to go is such a small amount until 7 grand and hell breaks out.
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Re: Yay for the 400!

Post by Uncle Bob » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:34 am

fossie wrote:The bit of tube under the carbs is for that reason, checking float heights
That's actually a quite good design on it! See not all bad :-) (Trying to make myself happier!)

Any tips for bending the "tang" that controls the float height? I'm conscious that if I break anything getting a replacement quickish will be a PITA.

In the parts and service manuals I got from Damian, they both say 1 3/4 for the pilot air screw.
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There was an engine and carbs on Ebay for £125 just before Christmas I wish I had bought now, but at the time I hadn't even looked at the bike so had no knowledge of what I needed.

Not sure how JMac is getting on with his carb rebuild, but hopefully the guy who is setting up for him will do the float heights - I have the info from the service manual - but basically if the carbs are off the bike then then tops need to be 10 degrees from the horizontal to take the level measurement.

I will still be after a few bits (inc the top still), and a spare float would be good.

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Re: Yay for the 400!

Post by Uncle Bob » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:26 pm

Update: Float heights done and needle valve (fuel) all checked and it starts nicely and runs well - possibly some top end of rev range fueling issue but not too bad - it's been standing 5 years so am going to put some miles on it first and see how it goes.

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Re: Yay for the 400!

Post by callyboy » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:07 pm

Nice one :) maybe keep an eye out for a cheap set of carbs and refurb them for the next time ;)

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Re: Yay for the 400!

Post by fossie » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:25 pm

Top end fuelling issues ......aftermarket pipe? Airfiter genuine and new.?
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Re: Yay for the 400!

Post by Uncle Bob » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:47 am

fossie wrote:Top end fuelling issues ......aftermarket pipe? Airfiter genuine and new.?
I love people who have been there before :-)

Yes, the 400 has a Yoshi on it. Airfilter I will take out and check but looked pretty clean down the hole. I take it it's a process of just larger main jets and finding what works? It had the standard 85's in there when I cleaned them. It isn't something I have done before. Any recommendation of where to start or what to go up to first?

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Re: Yay for the 400!

Post by sparki » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:39 am

on the larger air cooled motors, a pipe usually adds a jet size and raises the needle a notch.. ish

... but you can get a better idea yourself doing plug chops on wot then clutching it/hitting the kill switch. see the colour they're burring there and adjust accordingly.
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Re: Yay for the 400!

Post by katmarch » Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:59 pm

Don't give all the Public our tips & tricks ;)

Have our vast knowledge of technical expertise in the members area :D

Rob I'll let you know my carb tuning trick in Belgium over a pint.

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Re: Yay for the 400!

Post by sparki » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:48 pm

... there had better be a damn site more that a single pint involved over there ;)
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Re: Yay for the 400!

Post by Uncle Bob » Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:20 am

Carb tricks know how would be most welcome as it's an area I have never visited (tuning wise) as mine have always been standard. Some of that Belgian beer is strong - I better get the info out of you before you have had too many.

Myself - I am looking forward to ordering a Blonde Bush or 2 for the night :-)
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So up one size on the 400 would be to 87.5 then...? Stupid question but just making sure.

The 1100 got a new Eagle pipe as well so that probably needs doing. I aren't going to have time before going to do though, so hopefully all will be OK with it. Probably put the db killer back in as that will probably help for now, but doesn't sound as good.

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